In this conversation, Brett Dean, an accomplished Australian composer and musician, shares his journey from a young viola player in Brisbane to becoming a prominent figure in the classical music scene. He discusses his experiences in Europe, particularly his time with the Berlin Philharmonic and his recent residency with the London Philharmonic. Dean elaborates on his dramatic composition ‘In Spe Contra Spem,’ inspired by historical figures, and reflects on the unique challenges and experiences of live recordings during the pandemic. He also shares insights into his musical influences and the key decisions that shaped his career.